200 RR for an old, slow "racer" ?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:41 am
hello,
I did a quick introduction of myself in the Welcome thread.
I have been riding GG EC200 for years, my latest is a 2015 model.
Is there anybody here with experience from that era of Gasgas bikes that can say something about the differences between my EC200 and a new(ish) Beta rr 200?
I am very pleased with the GG, but its getting old. I can of course keep it going for a while, but sooner or later it will be too old.
In addition, I have injuried my right knee and my GG is kickstart only. So far (5 months after my injury) I am still unable to start it using my right leg. I could of course buy all the Rieju parts and build a electric start for it, but... You get the idea. Perhaps a new bike is a better idea?
I have always user Rekluse auto clutch on my GGs. I understand that Rekluse don't offer them for the 200rr. The only altarnative I have found is EFM. EFM claim they can deliver for the 200rr, by reworking OEM parts that I have to send them. Is there anybody here with experience of EFM clutches?
And last but not least, the suspension. On the GG, I have a very fancy Reiger B46 shock, the best I ever had on a dirtbike. And Marzocchi PFP 48 forks. I even have a set of second hand Ohlins cartridges on the shelf, I have never come around to installing them. I think the suspension would be the main reason for keeping the GG, as I forsee a lot of revalving / testing iterations to get any new bike as good as the one I have in that department. Even a 2023 200rr with KYB in both ends would have to go through that process. I can do my own forks, but the shock would have to be outsourced.
I'm not in the habit of buying new bikes, all my bikes thus far have been secondhand. I have understood that the 2019 Betas are the last ones on one era, the 2020 models are somewhat different chassis-wise. As the first year of 200rr was 19 (afaik), I presume buying a 19 model is not the best choice?
Are there significant changes between '20, '21, '22 models? I know that the '23 RE comes with Kyb rear shock. Are there other significant changes from 22 to 23?
Any thoughts?
I did a quick introduction of myself in the Welcome thread.
I have been riding GG EC200 for years, my latest is a 2015 model.
Is there anybody here with experience from that era of Gasgas bikes that can say something about the differences between my EC200 and a new(ish) Beta rr 200?
I am very pleased with the GG, but its getting old. I can of course keep it going for a while, but sooner or later it will be too old.
In addition, I have injuried my right knee and my GG is kickstart only. So far (5 months after my injury) I am still unable to start it using my right leg. I could of course buy all the Rieju parts and build a electric start for it, but... You get the idea. Perhaps a new bike is a better idea?
I have always user Rekluse auto clutch on my GGs. I understand that Rekluse don't offer them for the 200rr. The only altarnative I have found is EFM. EFM claim they can deliver for the 200rr, by reworking OEM parts that I have to send them. Is there anybody here with experience of EFM clutches?
And last but not least, the suspension. On the GG, I have a very fancy Reiger B46 shock, the best I ever had on a dirtbike. And Marzocchi PFP 48 forks. I even have a set of second hand Ohlins cartridges on the shelf, I have never come around to installing them. I think the suspension would be the main reason for keeping the GG, as I forsee a lot of revalving / testing iterations to get any new bike as good as the one I have in that department. Even a 2023 200rr with KYB in both ends would have to go through that process. I can do my own forks, but the shock would have to be outsourced.
I'm not in the habit of buying new bikes, all my bikes thus far have been secondhand. I have understood that the 2019 Betas are the last ones on one era, the 2020 models are somewhat different chassis-wise. As the first year of 200rr was 19 (afaik), I presume buying a 19 model is not the best choice?
Are there significant changes between '20, '21, '22 models? I know that the '23 RE comes with Kyb rear shock. Are there other significant changes from 22 to 23?
Any thoughts?